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When talking to manufacturers of consumer products like cleaning products, washing products and air fragrance one get amazed about their logics. They very much like to claim their products are safe so they ensure the consumers they are safe to buy their products.

In a discussion With the Norwegian company Lilleborg at their Facebook page Lilleborg Roadshow I found this statement:

 Lilleborg Roadshow Friday 10 May 2013 12:02
“We record huge commitment of a few individuals around perfume. This discussion is not new, Lilleborg has repeatedly been in contact with the same people, and we wish here to reiterate our view: We focus strongly that our products are safe to use. We are subject to stringent regulations which set clear requirements for what ingredients we can use and we have a strong focus on consumer safety when developing new and existing products. In order to meet consumer desires, we offer products both with and without perfume. We spend considerable resources with market research to ensure that our products meet consumer needs at all times. We use the equivalent of resources in product development to ensure safe, quality products according to a very extensive regulations that are harmonized with European legislation. ”

My comment on it to Lilleborg: “If you are so keen on that your products are safe then I wonder why for example Jif Baderom contain fragrances and Chemicals that the HSE (Health Safety and Environment) data say is allergenic for sensitive individuals. That is if you have hereditary history of allergy either you know it or not you can get allergy outbreak using it. But You tell nothing about this at the bottle when you buy it in the store. To know about the allergy risk you must have the safety data sheet and read the very finely tuned text. You know it contains perfumes that are allergenic but you do not stop using it. It is irresponsible if you ask me. You expose customers and their users to the risk of allergy and claim that you care about the safety of their customers. This I want a good explanation to. ”

To the fact: I am one of those who have used this JIF Baderom toilet cleaning spray and have gotten allergies. We used it at work. And after getting sick I read all the fine print about all the products we used at work in the safety data sheet and found that JIF Baderom is not safe! I have the safety data sheet at home. Those data sheet information you do not get as a private person shopping in the grocery store A product one can get allergies from or that make asthma break out is not safe. That is pure and clear logic. I find this way of thinking of the manufacturers are fantastic! As long as they can claim the Law say it is ok to use the content, even when they know it can cause allergy, they continue using it.

They know it is not safe, and still they state to all consumers they care about their safety. I find it stupid, arrogant and uncaring. What do you think?

Copy of original text in Norwegian:
“Vi registrerer stort engasjement fra et par enkeltpersoner rundt parfyme. Denne diskusjonen er ikke ny, Lilleborg har gjentatte ganger vært i dialog med de samme personene, og vi ønsker her å gjenta vårt syn:
Vi har høyt fokus på at våre produkter skal være trygge i bruk. Vi er underlagt strenge regelverk som setter tydelige krav til hvilke ingredienser vi kan benytte, og vi har høyt fokus på forbrukersikkerhet når vi utvikler nye og eksisterende produkter. For å møte alle forbrukerønsker, tilbyr vi produkter både med og uten parfyme. Vi bruker betydelig med ressurser på markedsundersøkelser for å sikre at våre produkter møter forbrukernes ønsker og behov til enhver tid. Vi bruker tilsvarende med ressurser i vår produktutvikling for å sikre trygge kvalitetsprodukter i henhold til et meget omfattende regelverk som er harmonisert med europeisk regelverk.”

My comment in Norwegian: Annelie Molin “Om dere nå er så opptatt av at produktene skal være trygge da lurer jeg på hvorfor f.eks. Jif Baderom innholder stoffer som iflg HMS datablad er allergiframkallende for disponerte personer. Dvs har du arvelige anlegg for allergi enten du vet det eller ikke så kan du få allergiutbrudd ved å bruke det. Men dette står det ingenting om på flasken da du kjøper denne i butikken. For å få vite det må du ha HMS produktdatabladet og lese det meget finstilte. Dere vet det innholder stoffer som er allergiframkallende (1,2-benzisotiazolin-3-on) men dere slutter ikke å bruke det. Ansvarsløst spør du meg. Dere utsetter kundene og brukerne deres for risiko for allergi og påstår så at dere bryr dere om sikkerheten til kundene deres. Dette vil jeg ha en god forklaring på.

Safety Data Sheet (Norwegian)

P1080013

Author: Annelie

I like canoeing, photographing, friends, movies, food, humor, and going on trips. I dislike rudeness, dishonesty, violence, nastyness, and people not caring for others. I do not drink much, I do not smoke and I do not do drugs. I love friends who are kind to me and stick with me. If you want to give me a gift, the best gift is to stop smoking and stop using fragranced products. Then you give me health and that dear friend, is the best gift a person can get. It is a gift of love. I got asthma and I am hearing disabled.

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